Midfielder who all played for Crystal Palace, and became group manager and key scout for the membership after pension. After 2 yrs in the Crystal Palace youngsters league, he agreed upon a professional agreement, and by his early 20s, he became a beginner on the group. His existence with Crystal Palace appeared to be the very best predictor of their achievement: while he was apart, these were relegated to the 3rd Division, so when he returned, they were marketed back again to First. All three of his sons experienced the Palace youngsters system, and performed in nonleague edges. Mark Shiny was another participant turned trainer of Crystal Palace.