Performed for the NEC Green Rockets and Kubota Spears. He afterwards became trainer of the brand new Zealand national group. He was initially selected for the All Blacks at age group 22, because of their tour of Britain and Scotland. He became the North Harbour mind trainer in 2011. He, his dad, and his grandfather constituted the initial family that three generations of most Blacks had been sprung. He and previous footballer John Kirwan both coached the Blues in Super Rugby.