Gifted rugby player who performed multiple positions in both rugby league and rugby union, before transitioning to coaching. He began playing in the Graeme Western world youth program at age group 10, and by 16, he was known as up to the group. He was in the United kingdom national group in the Super Group Check series against Australia in 1997. His kid, Owen Farrell, also performed in the rugby union and rugby group. He and Chris Ashton began in rugby playing for the Wigan Warriors rugby group club.